Friday, February 5, 2010

Does this help support islam by returning to its true roots?

the iranian parliment voted in favor of a bill on sept. 11 that would punish apostasy with the death penalty. the vote was 196 for , to seven againest. the death penalty, including, apostasy,establishing weblogs and posting parts of the quran.Does this help support islam by returning to its true roots?
The mullah's in iran are shitting in their panties because they know islam's days are numbered in my iran





most iranians have left islamDoes this help support islam by returning to its true roots?
Ukh, this totally sucks, man. The reformists were meant to be pragmatic and whatnot. There are at least 50 reformists in that hellhole.





To answer your question, no it isn't. The parliament voted against an article that let married men take second wives without the consent of the first, And for another article (ironically from the same bill) that allowed women to become judges. So yea, that's a setback for Islam.





By the way, of the seven who voted against it, three were religious minorities, (Jew, Christian, Assyrian). So over all only four voted against it.





And people in Iran are not leaving Islam. They have just become less religious than before. Partly due to the backlash of this regime's behaviour.
There is no punishment of death for apostates in the Qur'an. Rather, the Qur'an often commands the Messenger and Muslims to 'forgive and overlook', 'you were not sent to manage the affairs', 'to me my way and to you, your way,' etc.





The first few ayat you gave were mangled and out of context. They are an order to defend against persecution/oppression.





2:190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.





2:191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.





2:192. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.





2:193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.








Here again, the subject is defense. This is a description of the meeting of a hostile force, looking to wipe out the muslims, specifically at Uhud.





8:13. This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger. If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.





8:14. Thus (will it be said): ';Taste ye then of the (punishment): for those who resist Allah, is the penalty of the Fire.';





8:15. O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them.





8:16. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!





8:17. It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah. when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah.s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself: for Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things).











9:28. O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.





9:29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.





These two ayat are an injuction to protect the precinct of the Sacred Masjid from attack and deal with hostile groups, not just anyone. Before this, the Makkan pagans were administering the Sacred Masjid. They weren't about to let it go, along with the profits it brought them.





Google returns do not equal quality of information. It's just the internet. If there's anything to what you posted about Iran, its contrary to Islam, not complimentary.
rofl.





its shows clearly you have never been to higher education. or school. or simply ignorant.





i think they have courses on how to validate and verify the information on internet for the malleable nature of internet.








and,





LEAVE THE RELIGION THINGY ALONE!!!!!


you're getting nowhere! stop making fun of yourself! its embarrassing just to read your posts! respect other people's faith, man! by disrespecting other people's faith, you r disrespecting yourself!


if you really want to learn, why dont you learn through the right way to learn, find someone who really educated in this area and learn from them, not simply quote from internet. seriously you are making fun of yourself for your ignorant and stupidity. i guess you must have come from a very poor background and youd just FOUND INTERNET RECENTLY? thats y u so excited about it? LOL





p/s: i believe in the real world, you would not even talk about this. perhaps you have lots of Muslim friends. shame on u, aye?








but hey, no words can ever stop u aye? good luck with you getting nowhere :)





peace!
Bismillāhir-Raúmānir-Raúeem = ';In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Compassionate';.





Basic Rules Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) taught to Muslims: ALWAYS EVALUATE %26amp; INTERPRET SURAAH %26amp; HADITH WITH REFERENCE TO CONTEXT (Background) OF ITS REVELATION.





Great article:How Do The Unwise Interpret The Qur'an?


http://www.faithfreedom.com/essential_le…





Even when u read the verses of Holy Quran of WAR TIME u will find in the related verses about PEACE DEAL, OR MERCY IF THEY SURENDER etc. It is shame that NON-MUSLIMS even do not know this or they intentionally run from truth.





Anti-Islamist making ISLAM as greater in my eyes since they have nothing SUBSTANTIAL to prove against ISLAM. Thank u ALLAH, that I m a Muslims not only by birth but also by choice as well.


And I can prove Christianity, Judaism, and Hinduism as fakes by giving facts and figures.





Mother admonishes to her children to put on jacket %26amp; warm cloths in “winter season” but this admonish to her children certainly not for “summer season”. for example Muslims don't eat in daytime Ramadan, but it is certainly permitted in normal days. Same for War time verses in Holy Quran.





INTENTIONALLY MISINTERPRETED %26amp; by TAKING THEM OUT OF CONTEXT “VERSES OF THE HOLY QURAN” ABOUT TERROR by ANTI-ISLAMIST:





Anti-Islamist INTENTIONALLY quote HOLY QURAN verses of war time to LIE that see HOLY QURAN supports violence, but they INTENTIONALLY don’t read them in reference to their context, Holy Quran verses of war time will certainly ask Muslims to defend themselves and fight for their right, for their survival for their prestige, WHAT ANTI-ISLAMIST expect Allah to order in war time? To get killed, to put on bangles and not fight, to become cowards, to get raped?





Holy Quran 9:29 = so u fool, what do u expect from the victorious army for the prisoner of wars? This is not at all against GENEVA CONVENTION. U lost again.





Does the Quraan Teach Violence?


Why Anti-Islamist interprets without context for e.g.: An-Nisaa (2:89)


http://www.theicuc.org/msa/public/node/1…





(The Noble Quran, 4:48) = http://www.answering-christianity.com/is…


Surah Al-Anfal 8:12 Examined


http://www.answering-christianity.com/sa…


To read that Surah http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID…





Surah 9 “Al-Tawbah” (repentance), the most famous verse on Jihad


http://www.answering-christianity.com/wa…





For those who 9:5 in the Quran to claim that Islam is a violent religion.... did you try to read 9:6?


The context of the verse is during battlefield, In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriqs of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriqs of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them.





Holy Quran Surah Taubah 9: 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:





';If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.';





[Al-Qur'an 9:6]





Anti-Islamist just quote it without knowing the verse before it or the verse after it, without knowing its interpretation and what it refers to.





INTENTIONALLY MISINTERPRETED or OUT OF CONTEXT “HADITHS” OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) ABOUT TERROR by ANTI-ISLAMIST:





Correction of intentional misinterpretation of Bukhari, Ishaq, Tabari by Non-Muslims, just click the link


http://www.answering-christianity.com/cr…





An Illuminating Conversation between George Bernard Shaw and Abdul Aleem Siddiqui





http://muslim-canada.org/shavian.htm











If u want to contact me, my E-Mail address is: actions_furysroar@yahoo.com.





May Allah help %26amp; guide us all, Amen’.



I agree with blue eyed Muslimah - why would establishing weblogs or posting bits of the Quran be punishable by death?





Perhaps you shouldnt believe everything the media tells you?
what is the punishment or is there any punishment for an apostate?





renegade and apostate are two different things I thought!!!
posting parts of the quran is punishable by death?
Sophisticated!
No, it's wrong.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…





So should Obama be killed
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